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06/27/06

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Tom Cruise Was - Right!

By: Tony Zizza


Tom Cruise tells "Today" show host Matt Lauer,
about Adderall and Ritalin.

About a year ago, actor Tom Cruise shocked the nation when he stated on live television that, "Psychiatry is a pseudoscience." Most folks in the media, and most folks at the water cooler, thought that Tom Cruise, not psychiatry, was nuts. How dare an actor talk seriously about a serious subject? Or was it just another scientologist speaking harshly against psychiatry and its drugs?

It's about a year later, and there is absolutely no question that Tom Cruise was - right! Dead right. Right on the money. Right. Right. Right. The evidence is not just that "psychiatry is a psuedoscience" remains an accurate statement, but that even now, all you have to do is read the news on a daily basis to understand what a sick joke and fraud the entire field of psychiatry has become. And here's the kicker. You don't need to be a practicing scientologist like Tom Cruise to see the truth staring you right in the face. You just need to open your eyes.

Enter a news article by Lindsey Tanner, AP Medical Writer, that was published on June 5th. The title? "Study says millions have 'rage' Disorder." I don't know whether it was a press release or a news article informing us of "intermittent explosive disorder." In an age where there is a mental disorder for every American from cradle to grave, it has really gotten difficult to distinguish between real news and a real press release when the media reports on mental health matters.

The article, and so many others like it that announce an allegedly new mental disorder and study/survey exists, pushes the usual buttons. There are 16 million Americans out there suffering from intermittent explosive disorder, IED. Dr. David Fassler, a psychiatry professor, makes a statement about how the disorder affects both children and adults. What else is new? And it's also revealed that the way to treat the disorder is with therapy and - drugs.

Interestingly, IED, also known as road rage, has been bouncing around for at least fifteen years. I remember watching repeat episodes of Law & Order where defense attorneys would try to use the whole idea of anger as one that is outside a person's control and thus deems them as having a mental defect. And you think Tom Cruise is nuts? When even choosing to be a jerk in your automobile is now viewed as suffering from a mental disorder that requires therapy and drugs, psychiatry is 100 percent - pseudoscience.

While the findings of this IED study/survey (funded by who else but the National Institute of Mental Health), were released in this month's issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry, there is much more to consider. Did you know that Dr. Emil Coccaro, chairman of psychiatry at the University of Chicago's medical school, and the study/survey co-author, has long championed for drugs to treat this alleged mental disorder? He notes a clinical trial of a whopping 27 people who were treated with Prozac for anger. Nine of the participants left the trial. Back in the 1990's, he was one of the principal investigators for Eli Lilly in their clinical trials of Prozac.

It is alleged that IED can strike people as young as fourteen, and that the average number of IED attacks over a lifetime is 43. How the authors of the study/survey were able to nail down the exact figure of property damage caused by IED sufferers is amazing. How did they come up with a figure of $1,359.00? IED is included in the DSM, the bible psychiatrists use to list their named disorders, but even IED goes by different names. In essence, road rage is IED and vice versa. For you to believe that even your behavior in an automobile is within the realm of a psychiatric disorder, you would also have to believe you can never be a jerk, or mean, or wrong, or stupid - you simply are one of yet another set of 16 million people that have a mental disorder treatable with drugs.

Going back to Dr. Emil Coccaro, he states that IED "involves inadequate production or functioning of serotonin." So, we are supposed to believe that how we choose to react to things while driving an automobile, or being a passenger in an automobile, is brain based. We have a serotonin problem, not a personality problem that we may actually enjoy engaging in. Again, with IED and so many other subjective mental disorders, free will goes out the window. How is this is a good thing? How is this science? How is this medicine?

If you are a parent reading this column and you live in New York, please be aware of Jennifer Hartstein. She is a psychologist at Montefiore Medical Center and she was interviewed for Lindsey Tanner's piece, "Study says millions have 'rage' disorder" because she diagnosed a 16-year-old boy with IED. Just what New York needs, another child diagnosed with a mental disorder. She believes the IED study by Dr. Coccaro and lead author Ronald Kessler "is important because many people are not aware of the disorder."

Bada-bing, Bada-boom. Here is psychiatry stark naked at a Mets game on a Sunday afternoon. Psychiatry takes human behavior and turns all of it into a mental disorder, gives it an alphabet soup name, gets the media to write up news stories that sound like press releases, and invents all kinds of statistical nonsense. All of this sells drugs (Prozac) to treat the disorder and provides job opporunities for those in the "mental health profession." This is all done to spread awareness. It's not only nuts, but it's criminal, fraudulent, sad, and terrible on many different levels.

You know, most normal (whatever that means) people will go home after they have nothing left to do at their job. They'll "call it a day." Perhaps psychiatrists are bored stiff and come up with all these studies and surveys to pass time. Maybe they like to name things. Not that naming things means contributing something positive and true to medicine. To the world. To the human experience.

Quite the opposite in fact. This nonsense about IED proves once again that psychiatry is a pseudoscience. Tom Cruise was - right! He's hardly the first person to state the obvious, and he certainly won't be the last. But he sure deserves credit for putting his career on the line a year ago. A year later, psychiatry still thinks we're all a bunch of idiots.

This all would be incredibly funny, if it all wasn't so incredibly twisted and disgusting.

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June 27, 2006 Zizza is a freelance writer who lives in Atlanta, Georgia. He serves as Vice President for the State of Georgia for the non-profit organization, Parents For Label and Drug Free Education.

Comments, Pingbacks:

Comment from: Leslee [Member]
Big Pharma is up to it's sleezy tricks again!

“The Out of the Darkness Overnight march”
http://www.theovernight.org/

and the connection to Teenscreen
http://www.teenscreentruth.com/teenscreen_key_players.html

In 2006, The Overnight will take place in San Francisco on July 22-23, and in Chicago on August 12-13.
Each walker agrees to raise at least $1,000.
Net proceeds will benefit the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, (supposedly to prevent suicide.) HOW EVER THIS FOUNDATION FUNDS TEENSCREEN. THE REAL RESULT WILL BE MORE TEENS ON DRUGS KNOWN TO THE F.D.A. AND OTHERS TO INCREASE THE NUMBERS OF SUICIDAL TEENAGERS. This march takes advantage of grieving people and is an example of how far the pharmaceutical industry is willing to go to get kids on drugs! The organizers of teenscreen have been caught lieing repeatedly. learn more -
http://www.teenscreentruth.com/

Robert Nau is both
Vice Chairman, American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and
National Advisory Council Member for Teenscreen

American Foundation for Suicide Prevention
list of CORPORATE SUPPORTERS
http://theeffexoractivist.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=314


There were 145 million prescriptions written for antidepressants in 2003
Children accounted for 7 percent of the total of antidepressants prescriptions written.
10 million children on antidepressants.
http://tinyurl.com/ntdtj

A large study combined the results of 24 different smaller studies of children and teenagers who took either sugar pills or antidepressants for 1 to 4 months. Although no one committed suicide in these studies (They were under almost constant observation. Suicides rarely happen when kids are being observed.), some young patients became suicidal. On sugar pills, 2 out of every 100 became suicidal. On the antidepressants, 4 out of every 100 young patients became suicidal. Source The F.D.A.
http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/antidepressants/SSRIMedicationGuide.htm


2 out of every 100 young patients became suicidal who would not have with out the antidepressants.

10 million children on antidepressants.

In 2003 200,000 children became suicidal because of antidepressants.

Some of the Board of Directors
American Foundation for Suicide Prevention


Officers
David A. Dodd, Chair*
Serologicals Corp. Drug discovery

Directors
Cathryn M. Clary, M.D.
Pfizer Inc.

David Norton*
Johnson & Johnson
Harold Shlevin, Ph.D.
Solvay Pharmaceuticals Inc.
Some of the
CORPORATE funding for
The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention

Abbott Laboratories,
Bristol-Myers Squibb Company,
Cardinal Health Inc., drug inventors
Corbett Accel HealthCare Group, (pharma advertizing)
Eli Lilly and Co.,
Euro RSCG Life,
(Euro RSCG Life Interaction is a leading global interactive agency that focuses on serving pharmaceutical clients.)
Forest Laboratories Inc.,
GlaxoSmithKline,
Janssen Pharmaceutica Inc.,
Johnson & Johnson, ,
Organon Pharmaceuticals Inc.,
Pfizer Inc.,
Serologicals Corporation, (drug discovery,)
Solvay Pharmaceuticals Inc.
Wyeth Pharmaceuticals.
Education Development Center Inc.
Forest Laboratories Inc.
Pfizer Inc.
Solvay Pharmaceuticals Inc.
Wyeth Pharmaceuticals
APCO Worldwide APCO Worldwide – a management-owned strategic communication and consulting firm, is a leader in providing pharmaceutical companies..........
Avenue A/Razorfish advertising for the pharmaceutical industry
IDEX Corp. Mini Pressure Vessels Strictly For Pharmaceutical
IMS Health Inc.

FOUNDERS
Abbott Laboratories
GlaxoSmithKline
Janssen Pharmaceutica Inc.
BENEFACTORS
Eli Lilly and Co.

http://tinyurl.com/mcdld

see the suicide chart
http://tinyurl.com/ks23s


Archives of Suicide Research
Publisher: Taylor & Francis
Issue: Volume 7, Number 3 / July-September 2003
Pages: 279 - 285
URL: Linking Options
DOI: 10.1080/13811110301555
Correlation Between Suicide Rate and Antidepressant Use in Slovenia

Robert Oravecz A1, Bala´zs Czigler A2, Franc Leskos?ek A3

A1 Psychiatric Hospital Ormoz Ormoz, Slovenia
A2 Budapest, Hungary
A3 Ljubljana, Slovenia

Abstract:

Major descriptors of Slovenian suicide statistics are presented for the 13-year period ending in 1997. The purpose of the present study was to discover whether the introduction of antidepressant therapy influenced the Slovenian suicide dynamic. Collected national data on the rate of suicide and seasonal dispersion of suicide were compared with the prescription rates of antidepressives for the same period. NO SIGNIFICANT CORRELATION BETWEEN INCREASED ANTIDEPRESSANT PRESCRIPTIONS AND DECREASED SUICIDE RATE WERE FOUND. A possible decrease in the springtime suicide rate was observed. The Slovenian data, presented in a recent article, suggested some precaution toward descriptions of strong correlation between suicide and antidepressant therapy.

Why is the Slovenian study important?
If antidepressants prevent suicide they should work for all countries. Antibiotics work just as well for Slovenians as for Americans!

One of the drug companies arguments to support the idea that antidepressants prevent suicide is

“Epidemiological data shows that the areas of the U.S. that have experienced the greatest increase in SSRI prescription rates have had the greatest drop in suicide rates in both youth and adults “ (Notice that they do not give us the actual study statistics.)

What these studies are showing is that POVERTY is a cause of suicide.
impoverished people are more likely to commit suicide.

Poor people can not afford to take expensive antidepressants.

Stress is also a factor in suicide rates. What can be more stressful then never-ending worry about money?

In Washington, suicide rates increase as poverty increases and as educational attainment decreases.
http://tinyurl.com/oamwp

Common causes cited include bullying, abuse, poverty, homelessness, and alcohol abuse.
www.bullyonline.org/stress/suicide.htm

The experience of long-term poverty affects a child’s personality development,
through a family stress process in which poverty is considered to be one of the
major factors. This causes family dysfunction, stress among caregivers and
inadequate parenting.
http://www.humiliationstudies.org/documents/AhmedPovertyFamilyStressParenting.pdf

Poverty Kills - in More Ways Than You Think
http://www.cfah.org/factsoflife/vol3no1.cfm


Unlike the U.S. Slovenia has national health care.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/si.html

Literacy rate total population: 99.7%

With its small transition economy and population of approximately two million, Slovenia is a model of economic success and stability for its neighbors in the former Yugoslavia. The country, which joined the EU in 2004, has excellent infrastructure, a well-educated work force, and an excellent central location. It enjoys a GDP per capita substantially higher than any of the other transitioning economies of Central Europe. In March 2004, Slovenia became the first transition country to graduate from borrower status to donor partner at the World Bank. Slovenia plans to adopt the euro by 2007 and has met the EU's Maastricht criteria for inflation.
Permalink 06/27/06 @ 01:50
Comment from: Leslee [Member]
check out the art at
http://community.webshots.com/user/effexoractivist

learn about teenscreen at
http://theeffexoractivist.org/
Permalink 06/27/06 @ 01:53
Comment from: kameronj [Member]
Isn't it interesting that a Scientologist writes a freelance article about another Scientologist. How interesting is that. And I see that others have decided to chime in with URL pointing to good sites with good information. But what they failed to chime in with are URLs such as:

http://www.WhyAreTheyDead.com

or

http://Xenu.net

or

http://www.Xenutv.net

or my favorite

http://www.Xenot.com

If someone want to write an article about how right Mr. Cruise was in his rants to the media - let's have a discussion after the articles critical of Scientology are placed next to the same articles and URLs posted highlighting the DEATHS attributed to the psuedoscience of Scientology.

Then, and only then can we have a frank discussion about what works and what doesn't (koff, koff, the group that Layfette built). Don't misunderstand me - I'm not saying that doctor's have their hands clean nor am I trying to say that Mr. Cruises rants to Matt didn't have some factual basis. What I'm saying is - first, none of it was explained. Nothing was put "out there" to back up anything.

Second, if the freelance writer of this article wants to stand up and profess how right Mr. Cruise was - then let him also stand up and share his affiliation with Scientology. And Third....let's have a frank discussion on Scientology (and it's beliefs and practices and how non-scientifical they actually are). And let's discuss the deaths associated with that group. And let's discuss how they can not discuss anything of substance about that group.

If you are going to clog up the internet with such dribble...then you may as well make it worth our time and bring "both sides" to the table for a discussion instead of a one sided rant. Don't you have enough of that when you are sitting around the Org trying to figure out the best way to rip...I mean get people to come into your fold?

Let's discuss.

(And just incase it was lost, here is the URL again:

http://www.WhyAreTheyDead.com
http://www.Xenu.net
http://www.Xenutv.com
http://www.Xenot.com

Permalink 06/28/06 @ 13:34
Comment from: KevinOwen [Member]
Tom Cruise was right. Even the psychs admit it but they continue to push their fraudulent pseudoscience knowing it is.
What they don't realise is it can't go on forever.
If one looks at the future of psychiatry there is none

Psychiatrists admit No Science No Cures Video
http://www.rehabilitatenz.co.nz/

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual:(DSM): A Psychiatric Hoax Video
Permalink 06/28/06 @ 15:20
Comment from: Smarter Than You [Member]
It is true that anyone can say what they want and call it journalism. Journalism... now there's a pseudoscience. This article is teeming with imbedded assumptions and fallacies to the point where my head is spinning! The bias is overwhelming and let me just begin to pick this apart.

I get tired of hearing the same verbatim line from scientologists: "Psychiatrists are good at putting a name on things." It's chanted like a Catholic says "Praise be the Lord" at mass. IED is included in the DSM, the bible psychiatrists use to list their named disorders... this sounds similar, doesn't it?

Explain to me how naming things is bad? Labeling something is meant to classify and categorize something so as to better understand it. It's completely harmless! I'll agree, the over-medication is absurd, but that lies more on the shoulders of greedy individuals and people in higher positions like drug companies and what have you.

The funniest part is using episodes of Law and Order to prove that Psychiatry is 100% pseudoscience!! Science is (according to the dictionary I have here in front of me) the systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation. Tell me how this makes Psychiatry 100% pseudoscience. I can think of something with "science" in its title that falls under the category of pseudoscience moreso than Psychiatry. Something based on speculation and systematic reading that was never based on research, observation or experimentation. A "school of thought" that curiously puts names on things and does well to throw red herrings in debates or conversations that try to focus on their faults.

You know, most normal (whatever that means) people will go home after they have nothing left to do at their job. They'll "call it a day." Perhaps psychiatrists are bored stiff and come up with all these studies and surveys to pass time. Maybe they like to name things. Not that naming things means contributing something positive and true to medicine. To the world. To the human experience.

Quite the opposite in fact. This nonsense about IED proves once again that psychiatry is a pseudoscience. Tom Cruise was - right!


Here's a lot of speculation. "Perhaps" these studies are just to pass time has no basis in fact, now does it? Naming things having no positive contribution to medicine? That's a pretty general statement. How many ailments are there? Not just mental ailments, but medicine related in general. Cancer, influenza, neurofibramatosis... without names, what do expect when we get sick?

"Hey, doc. I'm vomiting and coughing."

"Oh, simple. You have a cough and upset stomach."

"Uh, that's what I just said. How will you help me?"

"Well, it could be 1000 different things. It's not like we name them to differentiate! That would be pseudoscience according to the scientologists!"

This is of course a humorous example to show how proposterous a statement Tony Zizza made. All of this somehow proves Tom Cruise was right in his head. That's fine. Some people will believe anything they read. And they'll read it all in a particular order.
Permalink 06/29/06 @ 11:22
Comment from: HowStupidAreYou [Member]
First off...Tom Cruise is an idiot. He is a freakin actor (and not a very good one). Secondly. Tom Cruise is an idiot. Lastly - Tom Cruise is an idiot.

That's all I really have to say.

Oh yeah....Layfette Hubbard was a liar and a cheat and died on the run from the law and had "psych" drugs in his system. I'm sure his system didn't seem to mind since he was not a virgin to filling himself with uppers and downers and booze of all kinds.

Oh yeah....and lt's talk about how the alternative to "psychs" helped...Lisa McPherson. Yeah - let's discuss that one. What? Don't know who that is? well, let me help edukate you. Go to: www.WhyAreTheyDead.com

I'm sure that those in the circle jerk called Scientology won't want to speak too much on this (or blame her death on a car accident - not that she dropped 40 pound in 17 days while in their care. Noooo - that was the car accident!).

But...just to be fair - ask them. Go on...ask them.

Freaks.
Permalink 06/29/06 @ 11:29
Comment from: Smarter Than You [Member]
I should also comment on the wordy, yet non-sensical response made right after Mr. Zizza's article.

There were 145 million prescriptions written for antidepressants in 2003
Children accounted for 7 percent of the total of antidepressants prescriptions written.
10 million children on antidepressants.


What does this tell us? What is your point? Kids don't get depressed? Some of them aren't able to be helped by anti-depressants? Not all biochemistries are the same. It may work for some and not for others, but at least that fact is acknowledged, rather than lumped into an asinine statement like "there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance" or "psychiatry is a pseudoscience."

2 out of every 100 young patients became suicidal who would not have with out the antidepressants.

This is a laugh riot. Explain to me your reasoning behind the statement that they would not have become suicidal without the antidepressants. Statistics are bullshit and far too easily manipulated to prove one's argument without compound proof, so I won't read into that statement too much... but it gets better.

POVERTY is a cause of suicide.
impoverished people are more likely to commit suicide.

Poor people can not afford to take expensive antidepressants.


Where do you stand on this???? This tells me you believe people are now suicidal because they can't afford the medication that you CLAIM will make them suicidal!

I laugh at arguments that are sporadic and riddled with links to sources. Most of them are usually .org (hmm, like this site) where usually opinion can be given disguised as fact. I saw only one mention of .gov which is about the only trustable internet source if you ask any scholar... even that url didn't seem to have anything to do with this article though. This tells me you're putting links up just to put them up. Clutter. If I were grading your statement as if it were a final in a college class, you would horribly, horribly fail.
Permalink 06/29/06 @ 18:37
Comment from: Smarter Than You [Member]
There were 145 million prescriptions written for antidepressants in 2003
Children accounted for 7 percent of the total of antidepressants prescriptions written.
10 million children on antidepressants.


By the way, can you tell me something? Probably not, but... are these 145 million UNIQUE presciptions or perhaps some of them refill prescriptions. Statistics are tricky...
Permalink 06/29/06 @ 18:40
Comment from: KevinOwen [Member]
By the way, can you tell me something? Probably not, but... are these 145 million UNIQUE presciptions or perhaps some of them refill prescriptions. Statistics are tricky...


No I can't tell you that but I can give you some idea of the kind of research and costs behind most of psychiatries ideology.

Millions Lost In Fraudulent Psychiatric Research
http://www.justicefreedom.org/Page44.htm

Among the NIMH projects Cowdry was asked to explain were:

* A study of the brain circuits which control mounting and receptive sexual behavior of the unisex whiptail lizard. In nine years, this project cost $1.4 million.

* A five-year study of red-winged blackbirds to determine how humans make choices of mates, dwelling, reproductive areas, escape routes and foraging areas. Cost: more than $539,000.

* A five-year study of the hormonal mechanisms in the brains of rats which make them want to eat salt. Cost: $5 million.

* A study of tree frogs’ communications to their mates to determine the development and maintenance of speech communication in humans. Cost: over $91,000.

* A 12-year study in which the jaw muscles of pigeons and rats were monitored electronically to determine which brain mechanisms could be linked to eating disorders in humans. Cost: over $545,000.

And many, many more.

What are the “outstanding research projects” which the NIMH has approved?

They include:

* A 19-year study of the affectionate, sexual and aggressive responses in monkeys, costing more than $1.6 million.

* A one-year study to determine why some transsexuals who apply for sex-change surgery follow through with it while others don’t. A bargain for only $7,236.

* A 25-year study of the effects of psychedelic hallucinogens on the brains of rats, at a cost of over $2.9 million.

* A 17-year study of slang terms used by Puerto Ricans in New York City when under stress. Cost: over $4.7 million.

* A six-year study of pigeons and humans to determine the response to delayed punishments or rewards when given a decision to make. Cost: more than $500,000.

* A five-year study in which rats were given electroshock treatment to compare its effect on their brains with the effects of drugs. Cost: more than $543,000.

* A four-year study in which drugged rats were startled by sounds and electric shocks to determine which drugs block the “fear mechanism.” Cost: over $300,000.

Bearing in mind that for every two studies approved, the NIMH rejects eight applications, one wonders what the remaining psychiatrists are attempting to “study.”


Permalink 07/01/06 @ 02:53
Comment from: [Member]
A fact is psychiatry has no basic science to work from. Science is supposed to be knowledge based on proven truths. Psychiatry lacks this basic part of a science.
Point in fact: their basic premise "CHEMICAL IMBALANCE" is not a truth nor is it measurable. There is not one psychiatric drug ( Thorazine,Prozac,Ritialin, etc... ) nor other treatments ( Electro-Shock, Lobotomy ) Which have been scientifically proven to produce any cure.
Do you know of anyone who has been cured by the above? Or any time psychiatry has said well we cured him so he is normal again?
This is a supposed science which in its one hundred year history has never stated the above. That concerns me!
Permalink 07/03/06 @ 01:01
Comment from: SoapScumBuildup [Member]
Tom Cruise needs a psychiatrist. He's an idiot. Unfortunately there's no pill for that. His couch jumping antics on Oprah show that he's too stupid to realize that falling in love is nothing more than brain chemicals gone crazy. He's an over rated, over paid control freak. Until he gets a degree in Medicine he has no business interfering in another persons medical treatment.
Permalink 07/03/06 @ 01:07
Comment from: HowStupidAreYou [Member]
Comment from: [Member]
A fact is psychiatry has no basic science to work from. [Yes it does. Just because you are too stupid to follow the science of it - or think that science is made of of little invisible space aliens that died 75 million years ago because a hack sci-fi writer who was drunk and on drugs said so doesn't mean that there is no basic science to work from. Only in your world - idiot.)

Science is supposed to be knowledge based on proven truths. Psychiatry lacks this basic part of a science. (On this note, I will say that Scientology and Dianetics lack the exact same. Given the fact that Hubbard didn't even do research, just stole the ideas from others...who, by the way, were Psychatrist who abandoned the ideas because they were unworkable, I would say Scientology is batting a thousand here!)

Point in fact: their basic premise "CHEMICAL IMBALANCE" is not a truth nor is it measurable. There is not one psychiatric drug ( Thorazine,Prozac,Ritialin, etc... ) nor other treatments ( Electro-Shock, Lobotomy ) Which have been scientifically proven to produce any cure. (I'm not sure if you are saying these treatments haveing produced a cure for Chemical Imbalnce - or produced a cure in general. But let's run with this - if you say that the basic premise of Chemical Imbalance doesn't exist...then your pointing to the treatments of it and saying they don't work is moot. Your logic is circular. That is tantamount to someone saying they hate God...but don't believe in God! What a moron!)

Do you know of anyone who has been cured by the above? (YES)

Or any time psychiatry has said well we cured him so he is normal again? (Yes. But you would ahve to first define what "normal" means. In a case of a Scientologist - would that mean being totally cleared of Body Thetans and money in your bank account? Is that normal? Or is normal getting back to the point where you could understand that everything that came out of Hubbards mouth was a lie, no factual basis for anything he said...for example, he wasn't a war hero. He didn't get injured in any war. He wasn't in the hospital due to war injuries, but rather ulcers. He received no medals. Lies. All lies. So if you mean you can get to that point - then we can agree on what normal is and go from there. But if you are holding soup cans talking to your elbow hoping it will blow...then you are a few fries short of a Happy Meal - and about as crazy as can be.)

This is a supposed science which in its one hundred year history has never stated the above. That concerns me! (And who exactly are you that we, being "normal people" should be concerned? Regardless of what you can throw out there about Psychaitry...us 'normal' people can do the exact same thing about Sceintology. It's a fraud. It's a scam. And the people involved with it are just about a looney as possible.

But let's not talk about the couch jumping imp with the washed up career. Or the Jenny Craig plus sized model who use to have a name everyone knew at the bar. Let's not do personal attacks and just stay focused on all the lies Hubbard spewed out of his mouth before he died with psych meds in his body...per the medical doctor's report at his time of death.

Why exactly was he in hiding from the law? What were his crimes again? How much money did he have stashed away in hiding? What were his crimes again? When he had members of his organization infiltrate government buildings to destroy records and steal documents...and they got busted doing it - did he come forth and help them or did he allow them to sit in prison for his crimes?

He was a loony nutbag that people, with mental problems, followed. And even after his death and his words can (and have been) proven to be lies - the idiot scientologist still want to say that his words are true.

That is the classic definition of insanity.

So, spew all you need to about Psychiatrist and the like - you people need some kind of serious mental help. If not from a psychiatrist...then from a bottle of booze or something cause ya'll just really insane in the brain!!

What a bunch of loosers!
Permalink 07/03/06 @ 10:28
Comment from: MistyAngel [Member]
Look I don't need you to tell me psychiatry and the medications they are prscribing are killing people. I'm a mother whom lost my 15 year old daughter to these drugs August 8th 2006. My daughter cared what happened to our world and about the war in Irag. She was courageous full of ability that would have made a difference in this world. If they want to talk about insane things happening in the world today, let's wake up before it's to late. I have respect for all individules whom stand up for what they belive Stars included. Get a grip people are dead and more are going to be before long if we don't take a stand. Children will never have babies of thier own or bury us thier parents for that matter. Were going to wake up tommorow and no one is going to be left. Let's look at what were allowing to happen quit grumbling and casting stones. Get up get a back bone and stop this madness before it's to late. It's much to late for my daughter Angel but tommorow can be different for others if we only stand today.
Permalink 10/29/06 @ 19:53

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