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05/28/06

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Interview of Jessie Macbeth an Iraq War Veteran

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Jessie Macbeth

Other blogs and web sites have removed the Jessie Macbeth video and many believe that Jessie Macbeth is a liar and a fake. When I saw this video my gut reaction was to believe Mr. Macbeth. There in his home with his wife and child present he admitted to committing unspeakable atrocities. He admitted to personally killing two hundred people, and he said that he had taken part in the mass murder of hundreds of people in a mosque, an act which left him with nightmares.

Why would anyone admit to committing war crimes if they weren't true. He sounded angry and disappointed with the government and himself for committing such horrible acts. He spoke of murdering a mother and her children as she begged for the lives of her children. He gravely regretted killing them. He said he saw their faces over and over in his mind.

A gang of megalomaniacs rigged the election process and stole America. They have already killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi men women and children and have committed many war crimes. They are spreading depleted uranium over the planet which will extinguish all life if it continues, and they plan to continue. They are capable of anything. They could easily destroy a persons character or falsify their military service record. I am not saying that they have done this, but it's safe to say they are capable of it.

There is a possibility that this is a big smear job that is being carried out against Jessie Macbeth by the right. Here is a link to his video interview and an article below from prisonplanet which makes a very persuasive argument against the validity of the Jessie Macbeth interview. You be the judge.

The Jessie Macbeth video interview

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Transcript: Confessions of Jessie Macbeth - An Iraq War Veteran

"What we are doing over there is wrong"

We went to the home of Iraq veteran Jessie Macbeth and his wife Lynn and their newborn baby boy. Jessie served as an Army Ranger in Iraq for 16 months before being wounded and ultimately discharged from the military. He is now a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War.

JESSIE: I thought I was going to be a hero, that I was going to go and be the best and go and protect my country, make sure people at home don’t suffer, even though I [indistinct] people back at home. I still wanted to do my job for everybody else, you know, for all the innocent people. And I was proud for my country, my home, my government.

I got shipped off to Korea for like one week. They go to pick up some more people. After that we were off to Baghdad. We dropped off in Kuwait first, we got caravanned to Baghdad.

Once I was in Baghdad, once I got there, my whole aspect of the country changed. When we were in Kuwait we got debriefed about our missions, about the Rangers. Our job over there is to strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqis. That is what they told us. They said do whatever it takes. We’re not going to hold anything against you, you’re not going to get charged for anything. Do whatever it takes to make them fear you; they told us to be brutal. They said we’re not there for them. We’ve got our own purpose. The Geneva Convention, it doesn’t mean crap. The Geneva Convention is something for political crap.

So, once I hear that, I’m like, what happened to the Army values, the stuff you pumped us up for? What happened to “We’re going there to liberate the people”? Operation Iraq Freedom is more like Operation Iraqi Slaughter.

I remember when my friends got there, after the debriefing they had us go out and clear out the bunkers after the air force had bombed the crap out of them. So we had to go in and make sure everything in there was dead. So, where there were women, children, whatever, that weren’t dead, we had to finish them off and drag the bodies out.

These were like little underground bomb shelters, or houses with basements, you know. Most of them were just families hiding down there, but we were told there were insurgents hiding down there. Saddam’s forces were hiding down there, you know.

So we went down there and a lot of them were dead and a lot of them were not dead, just wounded. I remember walking in there, smelling the smell of burnt flesh, and hearing people cry, hearing people begging us to help them, because they thought we were there for them, you know. And seeing people lying around and rotting. And some that weren’t wounded very bad, we had to kill them.

After experiencing that first part, it changed me. After having witnessed that, doing harm to other people’s life, I feel like I lost a lot of myself.

There would probably be like an average, sometimes more, sometimes less, of five or six people that lived, you know, and they were wounded, or they were hurt just a little bit, or because they were deep down in there, they avoided the main blast, they hid behind something, it didn’t matter whether they survived that or not, we had to kill them inside, where the rest of the media and that crap couldn’t see, and then bring them out.

A lot of times the intelligence on them, I think they knew there weren’t any insurgents in there. And I think they just said that, because every time we bombed someplace, the news blew it up, and so I think that they said that to get support and to make it look like they were doing the right thing.

The Iraqi people, the insurgents did a lot of jacko stuff to the American soldiers. I’m not saying it’s right, what they did, but if some people came into America, a huge foreign army, doing the crap that we did to them, I’d be just like them, doing the same thing back. People have the right to fight for their families, for their country, especially if we’re terrorizing someone’s country, they have the right to fight back. I don’t blame them. I would do the same thing.

I’ve been called a traitor for saying that, and all kinds of stuff. Well, I feel like a traitor to everything the military has taught me for doing what they told me to and for not speaking out I feel like I’m betraying my battle buddy that died.

After that, we were doing the night raids in houses, we would pull people out and we would have them all on their knees and zip-tied, and we would ask the guy a question, of the whole family, the man of the house is questioned, and if he didn’t answer the way we liked, we would shoot his youngest kid in the head, and we would keep going with our interrogation. He could be innocent. He could be an average Joe trying to support his family. If he didn’t give us a satisfactory answer we’d kill off his family ‘til he told us something. If he didn’t know anything, I guess he was SOL (?). It sucked. I didn’t feel anything. I just wanted to do my job. I wanted to be a good Ranger. I wanted to lead the way.

I felt wrong. I felt disgusted with myself, because I had to make myself hate them in order to do my job. I had to make myself not think of them as people. Just think of them as a target, or an enemy, or just dehumanize them. That way I could live with it. I still can’t. It hard for me deal with it, now that I’m back home, but that is the way I could complete my job.

I didn’t keep count, but I say by my hand alone probably almost 200 people that were taken out by me. That is a rough estimate and a lot of them at close range, like the distance from me to you, or closer. When we were doing the raids on the houses, they would be close; they would actually feel the hot muzzle of my rifle on the forehead. I wouldn’t shoot them that close, but I’d step back and shoot. We just had to scare them first, you know. Maybe we’d beat them up, or kick them, or hit the wife, or a couple of guys were fondling the wives, just to piss them off, to try to get them to say something.

We’d do that at several houses, multiple houses, slaughtering 30 or 40 people a night sometimes in the houses, women and children. I didn’t sign up to kill women and children. I was trained in the Ranger school in 18 months of that crap. I didn’t want to kill. I wanted a challenge. I wanted to fight other elite soldiers. But I had to go fight kids, women and innocent people that don’t know how to fight.

I really got disappointed in my country, I got disappointed in my government, but I didn’t say anything. I would have been locked up and got court-martialed if I spoke out while I was in active duty.

Other things that they told us to do, we were ordered to go into a mosque. This really hurts me a lot. My nightmares come from this most time. We’d be ordered to go into a mosque, and people were doing some sort of late night prayer. They don’t usually do a late night prayer, but they do it once a night in the holy days, or something. And we infiltrated the mosque ahead of time, we’d be all posted up there, and we were waiting for them to come there. There were like maybe a couple hundred people that were praying, all ages, women and men. While they were in their prayer we started slaughtering them, started shooting them, started taking them out. And then after that we would burn their bodies, we would hand their bodies from the rafters in the mosque, and we would write stuff up on the wall, like “You’re not safe, and you’ve got to leave here, and Allah can kiss my ass, and America, and who else in the world do they know?” And we’d leave some bodies in the streets. After a while it was just sickening, to think that I take part in that, and that my country turned me into that very same thing that I’m fighting against.

Now that I look back at it, we are the terrorists. We’re the ones terrorizing the country, a whole nation of people that did nothing wrong to us. Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks. I didn’t know that then. I know it now. I feel the death of my battle buddies, my suffering, all the soldiers over there, it was for crap. It was for lies. That’s hard for me to live with, you know. That’s why I talk out. I feel if I speak out I’m doing something to justify the deaths.

A lot of Iraqis didn’t want us there. We shot at protesters because we were told that they had weapons, whether or not they did. They’d say, “They’ve got weapons in there; you’ve got to go take them out, and that we’d find weapons afterward.” We found none. No weapons afterward. Kids that threw rocks at us and our commander told us to take them out. In that sort of environment, we had to take them out. Kids throwing rocks, protesters holding up signs, burning flags. Our job was to kill, kill, kill. You know what they’d say now, “What makes the green grass grow? blood red” That’s pretty much what they had to do, to grow some grass in the desert. I’m so disappointed in my country. I’m ashamed to have served in Iraq. The reason why I wear this hat and I go to these meetings and stuff is so I can speak out and tell the truth so that people know I was there and I’m ashamed of being there. I’m ashamed of having to hurt innocent people. I’m ashamed of taking part in one of the hugest damndest things our government has done.

Iraq is horrible. A lot of people are dying and a lot of stuff happening. I lost a lot of buddies myself. A lot of people are coming home not being able to deal with stuff they had to do over there, and our government doesn’t care. Most of the people don’t care. Lots of them do care, but the majority of Americans don’t care. There are homeless Iraq veterans; there are homeless Vietnam veterans, homeless Desert Storm veterans out there. If people really cared as much as they say they do, they’d get out on the ball and make a difference. They would stop the killing, because everybody that’s for the war, they’re supporting all the dying over there, all the loss of life. The death toll of Iraqis, hundreds of thousands of people. I didn’t know that many people could die, and it could be hidden from the world.

While I was in Iraq I saw huge ground pits filled with bodies that were being burned or buried or covered up. And how can they hide that from the rest of the world? How can they hide all those deaths? A lot of innocent people. It’s like mass genocide.

Our country has become terrorists. That’s why people hate us. I love my country, man; I would die for my country any day, but I won’t die for our president, I won’t die for our government. If I have to fight again, man, it would be to take that asshole out of office. I’m tired of Iraq. I’m tired of all these deaths, seeing all these people and feeling bad because I took part in it.

I remember this one time over there, there was this family. It was after we raided a house, and this lady, she was just holding her kids, three kids, they were young, one was about a year old, little older than my son, and a couple like five or maybe seven, I don’t know. They weren’t that old at all, and she was holding them and she had blood on her hands, one of her children was hurt, and she was sitting there, and I saw her first. She was begging me, begging me to save her, save her and to save the kids. But, I didn’t, you know. I wanted to be, uh, I killed them, because, that’s what I had to do. And not a day goes by that I don’t regret that.

I think about my own son a lot, what if that was my son, if someone came and killed my family. Iraq is horrible, and what we’re doing over there is wrong. I can’t say it enough. If you have dreams of serving your country, then you can do it another way. You can do it by stopping the war. I had the same grandiose ideas of being a glorious war hero. I modeled myself after the Vietnam guys.

People were telling me “War is not like you think it is,” but I didn’t listen. Once you go out there and experience it for yourself you realize the people were right, and it’s horrible, and nobody should be subjected to that.

The military, they lie to you. They manipulate you. And basically they can do whatever they want to you and get away with it. The government, they have complete power like that. A lot of people think it’s not true, but then look at Iraq. We’re terrorizing that nation. We’re getting away with it.

Guys going into the military, you make your own revolution in the military here at home. You do that. If you want to fight for a cause, fight for a good cause. Don’t fight for a war over money or oil or a war to take over the whole Middle East. This war is over money, and the military is not what it used to be. I’m disappointed in my military, disappointed in my whole country. I’m tired of everything, all the lies. Now they want to conquer Iran; they want another war. Next thing it’s going to be Iran Veterans Against the War; there might be Syria Veterans Against the War, or Saudi Veterans Against the War, or China Veterans Against the War. Who knows how far that asshole is going to go?

A lot of people in the military, they’re over there fighting, they don’t want no more war. They don’t want that. And all it takes is a few good men to hold the rallying flag, for them to rally behind. And we’ll stop this shit. The thing is, the government is doing so much to not let us be heard. The major media, they won’t play a lot of stuff. I talk a lot. They won’t play a lot of stuff that we talk about. They cut it out. They only play what they want the people to hear. They want to hush us up. We got to do stuff; we’ve got to find people that will listen, that will put real stuff out. Like you guys in Indymedia. because you’ve got to put out the truth and people rally behind that.

I’m so dedicated to my country. If it takes me holding up the flag and getting killed to put this shit to stop, I would do it, because it needs to stop, for my family’s sake, and for the rest of the world’s sake.

We don’t need to be over there. We don’t want to be over there. BRING US HOME. BRING US HOME.

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Fake Soldier Confession Video Runs As Cover For Real Slaughter Dilutes impact of genuine war atrocities like phony rape photos distracted from Abu Ghraib

By: Paul Joseph Watson

A widely circulated video in which an army ranger confessed to the brutal indiscriminate murder of Iraqi civilians and its vehement debunking as a hoax has acted as a smokescreen for the very real admission and evidence of US war crimes in Iraq.

Working in this field for five years and scanning news on a day to day basis you quickly develop and hone a bullshit detector that can spot hoaxes, psy-ops and frauds from a mile off. As soon as the MacBeth Marine video hit the Internet I smelt a very large rat.

The alternative media community is plagued by deliberate disinformation specialists and gullible individuals who will act as unwitting conduits for bogus information. This minefield of deception breeds confusion, distraction and lowers the credibility of the truth community.

In the video, MacBeth claims that he was part of a unit that regularly killed innocent Iraqis, their wives and children if they didn't explicitly follow orders.

Proof that the video is a hoax is legion. MacBeth's uniform is totally inconsistent with that of a US army ranger and his claimed medals are not verified by any official record. Army spokesman John Boyce said there was no record of MacBeth ever serving.

“Initial research by the U.S. Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg shows no Soldier with the name of Jesse Macbeth having ever been assigned to the Special Forces or the Army Rangers -- which are, in fact, two separate disciplines."

At its height, the fake video confession was the number 2 clicked news item across the entire Internet.

The video has eclipsed the real evidence of US war crimes in Iraq. The BBC video above carries bona fide testimony from US soldiers who served in Iraq and were party to killing civilians. To emphasize, this video carries accurate, unimpeachable, and legitimate testimony regarding US war crimes in Iraq.

In addition, charges are expected to be brought against Marines after an investigation into the killing of 24 unarmed civilians in the Iraqi town of Haditha in November. Congressman John Murtha said that the slaughter and its subsequent cover-up could do more to harm the US reputation in Iraq than the Abu Ghraib scandal. To emphasize, this event carries accurate, unimpeachable, and legitimate evidence of US war crimes in Iraq.

The hoax video has allowed Neo-Con media government boot-lickers to discredit all claims of US atrocities in Iraq, despite the fact that the army has admitted to them and charges are pending. This is an exercise in bait and switch and it softens the backlash of opinion against the coalition of the killing when true and verified examples of war crimes are brought to the fore. It dilutes the reaction to a growing body of hardcore evidence of ceaseless atrocities committed against innocent Iraqis.

Fox News wasted no time in exploiting the hoax to whitewash the real issue of war crimes and civilian murders in Iraq. Michelle Malkin (who advocates bringing back internment camps for Muslims) also cited the video as an example of anti-war propaganda and used it to dismiss genuine US-led slaughter in Iraq.

Watch below as fawning Neo-Con Malkin revels in debunking "peace propaganda" by comparing MacBeth's words to John Kerry's Vietnam testimony. This is also the only remaining record of the MacBeth video as all other postings of it have been removed.

News Hounds hit the nail on the head in assessing the consequences of this hoax.

"This segment serves a two-fold purpose. It plants in viewers heads the seed of doubt about stories of atrocities and murder of civilians, just as the Haditha story seems poised to break and expose exactly the kind of behavior dismissed here. For many of FOX's true believers, the Haditha story will be a conspiracy of the liberal media to hurt Bush because they hate him, and this discredited story will bolster their position of denial."

Fox were able to spin the hoax video and offer it as evidence of their ridiculous claim that the turmoil in Iraq is a US media creation and that we really are there to liberate everyone.

In considering the timing of the hoax confession tape it is pertinent to recall a similar instance of bait and switch which occurred at the beginning of the Abu Ghraib scandal.

Two days after the Abu Ghraib torture photos were released, the Internet was flooded with fake rape photos taken from porn websites. So when the actual military report stated that rape did take place at Abu Ghraib, the Neo-Con media junta could discredit and deny it. The Boston Globe inexplicably published these photos days after they were known to be a hoax and then staged-managed an apology, which garnered great attention. Printing the photos and then apologizing was a theatrical set-up to plant seeds of doubt in the minds of the body politic for future release of new photos and allegations.

In addition, staged photos of British soldiers urinating on and beating Iraqis were leaked to the Mirror newspaper in Britain. Despite numerous military eyewitnesses coming forward to say that beatings had taken place, the circus revolved around these few photos which were admitted hoaxes. The public was left with the impression that stories about British troops mistreating Iraqis were fraudulent, even though other cases of abuse had been admitted.

Though the news cycle moves far too quickly to immediately identify a story as a hoax, we should remain guarded in precisely what items we choose to inflate and circulate to a wider audience. Otherwise we're nearly as bad as the White House itself, which produces fake government PR and packages it as 'news' for the indoctrination of a bewildered US television audience.

But you won't see Fox News or Michelle Malkin kick up any fuss about that

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May 30, 2006 Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/300506fakevideo.htm

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