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Jesus [Christ], Dorner and Bin Laden: Patsy, Terrorist, or Savior

March 21st, 2013

By Robert Singer

A coincidental look into the lives of the 3 most wanted terrorists in history.

terrorists plural of ter·ror·ist, Noun

A terrorist is a person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.

There is neither an academic nor an international legal consensus regarding the definition of the term "terrorism." Various legal systems and government agencies use different definitions of "terrorism." These difficulties arise from the fact that the term "terrorism" is politically and emotionally charged. [From Wikipedia]

Quoted in the LA Times: "I don't want to hurt you, I just want to clear my name." Does this sound like something a violent domestic terrorist would say?

Bin Laden CIA

[Note the details in the wanted poster to the right. Build: Thin, Remarks: “He is left-handed and walks with a cane." Footnote [1] explains why the CIA would knowingly release a confession video with an overweight, fat nosed actor writing with his right hand.]

  • Usama Bin Laden [3 names], a violent international terrorist and kidney dialysis patient, in 1990, stars in the “First Bin Laden-Related Terror Attack in US,” at age 33. In 1998 Bin Laden makes the FBI’s most wanted list for his suspected role in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in East Africa. Finally in 2001, Bid Laden is chosen [by the CIA] to be the leader of al-Qaeda and the leading character in the 9/11 “attack” on America from his bed in a Pakistani military under the jurisdiction of the Pakistani Armed Forces with close links to the Pentagon. [2]

Quoted in the LA Times: “We hate your freedoms but we do not mind establishing a long-term truce between us and you.” Does this sound like something a violent international terrorist would say?

  • Jesus of Nazareth [3 names], a non-violent biblical blasphemer (terrorist) born of a virgin, in 30 A.D. stars in the Messiah Son of Man [3 names], Son of God [3 names], Crucifixion Story, at age 33.

Quoted in the most important book ever written, the Bible: “I and the Father are one.” Later when asked: “Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?” he answered, “I am, and you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven." (Mark 14:61-62 NIV) Does this sound like something a non-violent biblical blasphemist would say?

[Note: Blasphemy is considered one of the most serious sins by the Church theologian police right behind apostasy and infidelity [unbelief]. However according to Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologiae, heresy is a greater sin than blasphemy, cf. [11).]

The Charges, What Evidence?

Christopher Dorner, a former LAPD cop and honorably discharged Navy reservist, is accused of killing four people and engaging police in a deadly standoff. What is the evidence?

  • A photo of .308 sniper rifle and a handgun that has not been connected to the murders.
  • A manifesto written by someone with a 2nd amendment agenda rather than a policeman writing to expose police corruption and trying to clear his name.

The largest manhunt since 9/11 involving the FBI, SWAT teams, over 10,000 officers, tightened Border Patrol [including checkpoints in Big Bear], drones, helicopters and aerial search teams with thermal imaging technology. All of this was based on the unverified claim by the police that Dorner was the author of the numerous rambling versions of the manifestos [with various writing styles] making their way around the net.

[From What Really Happened to Monica Quan and Keith Lawrence? Was an Innocent Man Barbecued at Big Bear? By Ruth Hull]

According to the official story, at 9:10 P.M on February 3, 2013 a couple, walking through the upper floor (roof level) of the parking garage at 2100 Scholarship, Irvine CA, spotted a man and woman [Monica Quan and Keith Lawrence] slumped over inside a car that reportedly belonged to Keith Lawrence.

Here is what the public is expected to believe. In a million dollar neighborhood, in a racist area of the country, a large black man breaks into a secured garage and is allowed by a police officer (who theoretically knows he’s hostile) to walk up to the officer’s car under a bright light and shoot the officer and his girlfriend (also from a police background) while nobody hears any shots and then departs, going both in and out of the garage in front of a video camera. Of course, the police (who want us to believe this) have failed to release the video footage that would show they were right about it being Chris Dorner who did all this.

When you add this improbable scenario to the unlikely ending at Big Bear (see Chris Dorner: Crazed Killer, Innocent Hero or Neither?), this begins to look less and less like real life and more and more like a poorly written movie plot. [End of From What Really Happened to Monica Quan and Keith Lawrence? Was an Innocent Man Barbecued at Big Bear? By Ruth Hull]

Bin Laden, the former CIA "intelligence asset" and leader of al-Qaeda, and patient at a Pakistani military hospital on September 10, 2001, is accused of being the mastermind of 9/11. [3]

What is the evidence? Well actually according to CBS and the FBI … the evidence doesn’t exist.

[From FBI says, it has “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11” By Ed Haas]
06/18/06 "Muckraker Report" - June 6, 2006 – This past weekend, a thought provoking e-mail circulated through Internet news groups, and was sent to the Muckraker Report by Mr. Paul V. Sheridan (Winner of the 2005 Civil Justice Foundation Award), bringing attention to the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorist web page for Usama Bin Laden. [1] In the e-mail, the question is asked, “Why doesn’t Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted poster make any direct connection with the events of September 11, 2001?” The FBI says on its Bin Laden web page that Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998 bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. On June 5, 2006, the Muckraker Report contacted the FBI Headquarters, (202) 324-3000, to learn why Bin Laden’s Most Wanted poster did not indicate that Usama was also wanted in connection with 9/11. The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” [End of From FBI says, it has “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”]

Jesus of Nazareth, the central figure of Christianity and former maker of yokes and ploughs, fathered by the Holy Ghost, is accused of incitement, conspiracy and blasphemy because he claimed the title of divus or divinity without the authorization of the senate and people of Rome.

What is the evidence? As the public records of the province of Palestine were destroyed in AD 66 by Galilean zealots, we do not have many non-Christian sources. But both Tacitus and Suetonius provide useful clues.

[From Was Jesus technically guilty of blasphemy?]

“All the Roman sources suggest that Christ’s guilt was regarded as proven by means of the ordinary administrative trial presided over by the governor of the province, Pontius Pilate. (Tiberias was the seat of judgment for judicial trials, but the governor happened to be in Jerusalem at that time of year, rather like a circuit judge.)

But what was Jesus guilty of? We know from later evidence that attempts to prove conspiracy or incitement on the part of the first Christians often came to nothing: Pliny the Younger wrote to Trajan that he had tried to "worm the truth out of two serving girls by torture and found nothing. If Christ was found guilty of conspiracy, then that looks like a miscarriage of justice. [End of From Was Jesus technically guilty of blasphemy?]

The Pharisees and the Sadducees are accused of intimidating Pontius Pilate, one of cruelest, obstinate, merciless Roman governors of all time, into crucifying Jesus Christ instead of Jesus Barabbus? Yes Barabbus’ first name was Jesus. [4]

What is the evidence?

The official Jesus, Jew and Pilate story goes like this. The Jews were upset that Jesus had dinner with tax collectors and wouldn’t admit to them that he [Jesus] was the Son of God. They wanted Pilate to find him guilty of the great crime of blasphemy. You would expect that Pilate would send Jesus off to be flogged and crucified, but you would be wrong.

Pilate, we are told, doesn’t make any important decisions without talking to his wife, and decides he doesn’t want Jesus to suffer the most sadistic form of execution ever invented. He comes up with an offer “the real” Jews would have refused:

Hey, you 12 [not exactly a crowd] out there in the courtyard listen up. Isn’t it your custom during the Passover festival to free a prisoner? Why not let me crucify Jesus Barabbus, the contract killer for the money-changers at the temple, whose name means son (bar) of the father (abba), instead of Jesus of Nazareth, the innocent Son of the Father, who, [are you guys kidding] blasphemed you?

According to the gospels, all 12 people in the crowd shouted, “We want Jesus Barabbas [freed], crucify Him (Jesus of Nazareth)!”

Pilate didn’t want to have an innocent man’s death on his conscience and/or he was worried the 12 Jews would start a riot, so he lets Barabbas go free and the rest, as they say… is history. Jesus gets crucified and the Jews, as usual, get the blame.

You don’t need an IQ over 110, or the history that was left out of the Bible, to realize the Jews had nothing to do with the Crucifixion of Jesus. [4]

Hiding Under Your Nose and in Plain Sight

Fugitive killer ex-cop was hiding under noses of police in condo just ACROSS THE STREET from their command center “The fugitive ex-cop who sparked the greatest manhunt in Southern California history was hiding out right under the noses of 200 officers who were supposedly going door-to-door looking for him. Christopher Dorner broke into an unoccupied condo across the street from a temporary command center in Big Bear, California, where dozens of San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies gathered to plan the search for the disgraced LAPD patrolman.

It was revealed today that police never searched many of the homes closest to the spot where Dorner's burned-out truck was discovered last Thursday. It is unknown how long Dorner had stayed in the unoccupied condo on Club View Drive - but it's possible he was hiding, safe and warm, in plain sight the entire weekend while heavily-armed SWAT officers braved the cold and snow of the surrounding mountains in the manhunt.”

Fugitive Bin Laden baffled neighbors by hiding in plain sight “While Pakistan tries to deflect deepening skepticism that no one knew Osama bin Laden was living inside the country, local residents in Abbottabad are trying to understand how the world's most notorious fugitive was living right under their noses. NBC’s Tazeen Ahmad reports.”

Fugitive blashphemer and ex-foot washer, was hiding under noses of the Pharisees and the Sadducees in the Garden of Gethsemane [in plain sight] when a prearranged sign (a kiss) from Judas led the authorities to where Jesus was that night.

A Tale of Two [not 3] Wallets/Passports/Licenses

Dorner’s California Driver’s License is found near a burned corpse in the basement area of the burned building cabin. Is that possible?

As you can see in the image above, it is hard to believe a plastic driver’s license could recognizably survive such a fire. I remind the reader that on February 7, 2013 it had been reported that Dorner’s wallet and identification had been found by a shuttle bus driver in the San Diego area. [5]

What’s up with these identification documents that don’t burn?

Bin Laden: The paper passports of two (2) of the alleged hijackers working for Bin Laden survived just fine and were supposedly found in the burning rubble of the Pentagon crash. And inexplicably the passport of the supposed "ringleader," Mohammed Atta, somehow managed to survive the collapse of the Twin Towers and floated safely to the ground. The passport, albeit with a few burnt edges, was "found" just a few blocks away from the World Trade Center! Huh?

Was a wallet, passport or drivers license found near the site of the Crucifixion?

Answer: No. Wallets/Passport/licenses were not issued in 30 A.D.

Million Dollar Rewards Uncollected

A $1 million reward was offered by LAPD Chief Charlie Beck on February 10, 2013 for information leading to the capture and arrest of Dorner. The couple, who Dorner allegedly tied-up but escaped, was able to use the cell phone on their coffee table to call authorities that ultimately led to finding Dorner. They are not going to get the reward because Dorner needed to be captured and convicted.

However the “Thirty Mile Zone” (TMZ) reports that nobody is getting the payout because Dorner wasn't arrested or convicted. An unidentified source at the Los Angeles Board of Supervisors told TMZ, Dorner was cornered but not captured.

A $25 million reward was offered for the capture of Osama Bin Laden, dead or alive, for his suspected role in the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies. Harry Edwards, a spokesman for the State Department, tells CNN that “In the case of Osama Bin Laden it is possible that no money will be awarded because it was unidentified detainees that provided the key piece of information that led the investigators to Bin Laden’s location.”

However a senior U.S. official familiar with the Bin Laden hunt and the Rewards for Justice program said “the money will probably remain uncollected” because the raid that killed the al Qaeda leader in Pakistan on May 2 was the result of electronic intelligence, not human informants. “The reason is simple, say officials involved in or knowledgeable about the hunt for the world's most wanted man: the CIA and the military never had an al Qaeda operative as an informer willing to give him up. Instead, what killed Bin Laden was electronic surveillance, and an operational mistake by one of his closest associates. After a slow drip of intelligence year after year, and then a final flurry of data collection and analysis brought a team of SEALs to Bin Laden's Abbottabad compound on a moonless night.”

30 pieces of silver [a lot of money in 30 A.D.] reward was offered for the capture of Jesus for having dinner with tax collectors and refusing to admit to the priests that he [Jesus] was the Son of God.

However “when Judas, who had betrayed him and saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty silver coins to the chief priests and the elders. ‘I have sinned,’ he said, ‘for I have betrayed innocent blood.’ Then he went away and hanged himself.

Jesus [Christ], Dorner and Bin Laden: Patsy, Terrorist, or Savior?

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Robert Singer writes about Secrets, Sentient Creatures and The Federal Reserve at The Peoples Voice and The Market Oracle (rds2301@gmail.com)

Endnotes

[1] You are probably wondering why the actor in the video uses his right hand when writing, whereas Bin Laden is known to be left handed. Not to mention the actor playing Bin Laden is overweight, has a much bigger nose and doesn’t remotely resemble Bin Laden. "Last Friday Lawrence (Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University’s Religious Studies program), citing informants in the US intelligence apparatus’s Bin Laden units, told Kevin Barrett (a US radio talk show host) that everyone knows the tape is fake, adding that the hoax has been kept alive because it is politically useful to those who wish to bolster the official 9/11 conspiracy that 19 hijackers directed by Bin Laden from a cave carried out the attacks."

[2] Surprised by the ease in which this FBI spokesman made such an astonishing statement, I asked, “How this was possible?” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, Bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”

[3] From Bush Administration knew the Whereabouts of Osama by Michel Chossudovsky “If the CBS report by Dan Rather is accurate and Osama had indeed been admitted to the Pakistani military hospital on September 10, 2001, courtesy of America's ally, he was in all likelihood still in hospital in Rawalpindi on the 11th of September, when the attacks occurred. In all probability, his whereabouts were known to US officials on the morning of September 12, when Secretary of State Colin Powell initiated negotiations with Pakistan, with a view to arresting and extraditing bin Laden.”

[4] Pilate’s method of dispensing justice and of handling crowds is legendary.

An unarmed crowd came before Pilate’s tribunal at coastal Caesarea to demand that he remove from Jerusalem the pagan images on his military standards. He surrounded the crowd with soldiers “three deep,” and people were saved from slaughter only by a willingness for martyrdom. But the next time they tried the same nonviolent resistance, Pilate infiltrated them with soldiers dressed “In Jewish garments, under which they carried clubs,” and “many of them actually were slain on the spot, while some withdrew disabled by blows.” [Josephus]

The 39 books of the Hebrew Bible Old Testament weren’t compiled until 90 AD, 57 years after Jesus’ death.

Constantine the Great didn’t canonize The New Testament until 367 AD, 334 years after Jesus’ death.

The four official gospels were not written until 60 years after the events and Paul didn’t start writing the epistles until 52 A.D. Paul’s letters are the oldest Christian documents but Paul admits he never met Jesus and, in fact, his letters contain almost no reference at all to the living Jesus.

Christianity was marketed first to the Romans. Any fool knows you can’t sell a religion to the very people who killed their savior. http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/jesus.html

Notice the official story doesn’t make a distinction between the real Jews running around in funny hats and a crowd of 12 sadistic “Jews” who wanted a crown of thorns put on Jesus’ head before he was flogged and led out of the city walls to be crucified at Calvary?

Think about it, the Jesus story is Anti-Semitic nonsense. Jewish people, of any variety, and at anytime in history, didn’t go around in white robes and hanging people from trees.

When was the last time you read about a Jewish crusade or inquisition? And finally, the last time I looked the Jews in Germany didn’t kill the Nazis.

[5]“After authorities interviewed the boat captain early Thursday, they found Dorner’s wallet and identification cards ‘at the San Ysidro Point of Entry’ near the U.S.-Mexico border, according to the court records. That same day, a guard at the Point Loma Naval Base told authorities he had spotted a man matching Dorner’s description trying to sneak onto the base, according to the filing.”

I apologize but I need to remind the reader that on February 13, 2013 a wallet with a California driver’s license with the name Christopher Dorner was allegedly found in the rubble of the burnt-out Big Bear cabin,

“A wallet with a California driver’s license bearing the name Christopher Dorner also was found, the Associated Press reported, citing a law enforcement official who was briefed on the investigation but declined to be named because of the ongoing probe.”

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